Glass pool fencing

 6 February 2009

The "invisible" fence

 

Glass pool fencing comes in 4 main categories, however, in theory, anything you can imagine, we can build for you. Generally the only limiting factor in achieving the look you want is the cost. (Of course).

Please bear in mind that what we design, and the cost, is strongly influenced by the location, in particular, exposure to the wind. Obviously on high ground, the wind loading will be higher than a well protected area.

Type One

The most economical type is "Posts and Rails" which provide all round support and therefore thinner safety glass can be used.

This example is powder coated aluminium with clear toughened safety glass supported on all four sides.

As fences are a set height, as a "rule of thumb" the price can be roughly estimated by the length of the fence.

Cost is approx $600 a lineal metre for something like the one above. Good quality stainless posts are a little more.

Generally this fence type uses 6mm toughened, but longer spans may need a thicker glass, so we may use 6mm for most of the job, but thicker glass where required.

 

Type two

"Posts Only" fence normally have aluminium or stainless posts and thicker safety glass to eliminate the top and bottom rails. Usually 8mm glass can be used, but subject to location.

We have seen these available with "stainless posts" for less than $500 a metre and even less on the Gold Coast where wind load is not a problem.

There is a reason why our price is around the $800 a metre mark and you can read more about that in the "Getting a quote" section further down the page. 

 

The example shown is one where we found the posts were already in position (and painted) from a previous fence the customer wanted to keep, but are sufficient to show the method of attaching the glass to posts and the effect of the posts on the aesthetics of the job.

            

Note this type of fence can only be used where the ground level on either side of the fence is less than a metre difference.

It is not suitable for balconies or pool edges where there is a drop of more than a metre.

 

Type Three.    Mini-post style.

This is the most popular of type, giving an almost unobstructed view and getting close to "the invisible fence" concept. The glass we use here is 12mm thick with highly polished edges and bolted into heavy duty stainless spiggotts (mini-posts), structurally grouted in the concrete slab.

Average cost is more than the post type at about $1,300 a metre but gets away from the 'picket fence' look of normal posts.

 

This example is a "before and after" shot of this Riverside home.

                         

(Note the gate on the left and the latch in black just down from the inside top.)

 

This beautiful Mediterranean-style home in Fairfield was completed in early 2008 and the owner wanted to make full use of the view.            

                             

This one is situated in Rowes Bay and provides an excellent example of the contrast between the frameless fence and the normal aluminium pool fencing.

 

Type Four.  The "Glass Only" fence is set into either a channel or concreted directly into the slab. See photos below.

If using channel in either aluminium or stainless steel, it is mechanically and chemically bonded to an existing concrete slab.

The channel can also be fitted to a timber deck.

The other method used is laying the glass directly into the concrete slab before it is poured and filling the area around it with a special quick-set, non shrink grout. Tiles are then laid up to the glass.  Generally the cost of this method is similar to the mini-post type at around $1300, however if it is used in a high wind load area the use of 15mm glass can increase the price significantly.

May 2008.

This project was a combination of the "in concrete" method and the mini-post method. Note the glass on the left follows a curved garden bed. 

                        

 

If you take a look at the photo at the top of this page, which is from the same site in Fairfield Waters, it shows both the in-ground section and the adjoining section using the mini posts.

Gates

 

Note the self closing gate on the left of the photo has a raised section for ground clearance. It is important that all edges, including the bottom of the glass have a finely polished edge to maximize the strength of the glass. Microscopic flaws in the edge of some imported glass gates can lead to unfortunate events where the glass spontaneously explodes leaving a major security risk and a big clean up in an area where bare feet are the rule.

Another point to check is that the stainless lock actually bolts through the glass, not just held on by friction.

When using quality all-glass gates the closing mechanism should be buried in the concrete for a controlled closing effect rather than using spring-loaded hinges.

 

This is a low cost version using an aluminium gate with 6mm toughened glass where spring-loaded hinges are used to minimize cost.

 

RESTRICTION

The latest Australian Code AS1288 2006 places some restrictions on glass-only fences and balustrades. Generally if the floor or ground level difference either side of the glass is more than one metre, we must fit some form of top rail. This is usually contrary to the plan of having an uninterrupted view and we have developed low profile aluminium rail to minimize the effect.

Getting a quote.

There are materials available from importers who will supply "stainless" posts and "approved glass" from China. We have some disappointing examples that we purchased but had to reject because of quality concerns.

Our concerns include "indelible" quality stamps that just rub off, edge work unfinished / missing and glass that is not straight.

We are also concerned with "stainless" posts and fittings including latches that only held on by friction and not though-bolted onto the gate and adjoining panel, gates that are rough cut with un-polished edges etc

It is possible to build a glass fence with the imported materials for only a couple of hundreds dollars a metre and it is also possible to buy them direct on the Internet.

We have been in business for more than 20 years and we do not want you to come back as a dissatisfied customer in a couple of years to complain that the "stainless" posts are rusting or the glass is bowed etc., so we only use Australian stainless and Australian glass.

It is very much a situation of  'you get what you pay for' in glass pool fences.

 

Site visits

It is not practical to visit every site to do quotes, so we ask you to tell us what type of glass fence interests you and the approximate dimensions.

Often we receive site photos by email and rough sketches by fax. Many people even bring their mud maps into the office so we can look at photos or previous jobs and the glass suitable for your fence. Even a good telephone conversation is enough to provide you with an accurate quote.  

The next step is to fax, email or post you a quote. After you take care of the signing and deposit details, we visit you to photograph the site, to work through any potential difficulties and make suggestions on layout etc.

So long as the length and makeup of the fence is reasonably close to what we quoted on, we do not increase the price or add any "extras". (What you are quoted is what we deliver. We don't nit pick over variations in the on-site measurements.)

Next, we toughen the glass panels in our factory in Townsville to meet Australian Standards. This is what separates Austing Glass from others, as we do not import cheap Asian glass of a quality that may not meet the exacting Australian Standards.

You need a company that you can be fairly certain will be around in years to come if there are any problems.

We have many loyal customers, some from 20 years ago, and this is your guarantee of working with people who care about getting you the result you want.

About 2 weeks later we start the installation. Generally this is done over 2 days and you can pay the balance of the account when all is satisfactory.

Finally, we encourage you to get other quotes, discuss with us any differences that arise.

Ask :-

Will the cheaper imported materials be OK for this job? (If so, most fencing contractors will be able to quote you.)

Will the fence meet the wind-load laid down in AS1288 and can I get a glazing certificate for the Council?  

Do I want my glass fence installed by a fencing contractor or a glass company?

We are happy to talk to you and provide advice regardless.

Thanks for paying us a visit.

        Dan            Austin Glass

More details and photos to come.

In the interim, if you want more, call us on 4725 4444 or email dan@austinglass.com.au